Ed Hays is the founder of Shantivanam (Forest of Peace), an ecumenical Christian retreat house of prayer hidden in the woods near Leavenworth in Easton. The current director of Shantivanam, Sr. Eileen Haynes, is a first-year student with me at Souljourners.
Episode 1: Learning to pray (24 min.)
When asked for a photo of himself, Fr. Edward Hays sent this "self-portrait." |
He also talks about building a church in a horse barn (13:30). Fr. Hays says an addiction to storytelling is in human DNA. That's why Jesus taught in parables.
Episode 2: Finding the foundation of faith (18 min.)
Fifty years ago when he was ordained, Fr. Hays says, he objected to be called a "secular priest," meaning a diocesan priest and not an order priest. "Secular" seemed to mean unreligious, he said. "Today, I am delighted be called 'secular,' 'worldly,' because that is exactly what the Master was," he tells Tom Fox. "Jesus came to give us a secular, worldly way of loving God, serving God and even worshipping God."
Fr. Hays said he has tried to help people live and prayer in the real world. Fr. Hays then begins some capsule reviews of his many books.
Episode 3: Holy fools and clowns (30 min.)
"We'd have a far different church, if they had a court jester sitting at the foot of the papal throne making wish cracks at some of those solemn pronouncements," Fr. Hays tells Tom Fox. Fr. Hays continues talking about his books, one of which was mimeographed and shared clandestinely behind the Iron Curtain and another of which was read over the radio in Hong Kong.
Fr. Hays concludes the interview with this thought: "Any dream worth giving your life for that you can see in your lifetime isn't worth giving your life for. So you're always living out a dream, a hope, an aspiration, that you won't see, but if it's a great one and it's worth your life, then it's worth it."
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